playaj82
Aug 8, 11:48 AM
I understand your point. I do, however, feel that Apple has more of the platform's long-term best interests at heart, versus the developers delay of a UI for 5 months.
If we're to assume the "Top Secret to prevent photocopying" theory, then these next 5 months are more crucial to Apple's development than the platform developers. Come January, Apple might spill all the details of the (currently speculative) Finder, and developers have from then until release date to incorporate it. Sure, it's a delay of 5 months, but think big-picture. If Apple's secretiveness prevents Vista from incorporating Leopard UI traits, it's worth the wait to make Leopard appear further ahead.*
*We all know this is a rumor site, but the above is purely speculation on my part.
I guess I'm just not seeing the point in keeping stuff secret.
I understand that Apple uses the photocopy thing as a joke, but in all reality, it isn't like Microsoft is stealing lines of code. The features that Apple has included are not necessarily original. They are just original as being "incorporated" in the OS.
Big picture, they should have spilled it all. The reaction to Leopard has already been rather blah. And so what if Microsoft steals one or two "top secret" features.
Time Machine - nothing new conceptually, just graphically improved
Spaces - A blatant rip of "Virtue" for OS X
Mail Improvements - I already have plugins that do most of that
iChat - About 1000 people have already pointed out a been there, done that for iChat
All of Apple's supposed "new" features are not as new as they seem.
I like what they are doing with the stuff, but right now they need to save their *** and give away some "secret" features before people stop caring.
If we're to assume the "Top Secret to prevent photocopying" theory, then these next 5 months are more crucial to Apple's development than the platform developers. Come January, Apple might spill all the details of the (currently speculative) Finder, and developers have from then until release date to incorporate it. Sure, it's a delay of 5 months, but think big-picture. If Apple's secretiveness prevents Vista from incorporating Leopard UI traits, it's worth the wait to make Leopard appear further ahead.*
*We all know this is a rumor site, but the above is purely speculation on my part.
I guess I'm just not seeing the point in keeping stuff secret.
I understand that Apple uses the photocopy thing as a joke, but in all reality, it isn't like Microsoft is stealing lines of code. The features that Apple has included are not necessarily original. They are just original as being "incorporated" in the OS.
Big picture, they should have spilled it all. The reaction to Leopard has already been rather blah. And so what if Microsoft steals one or two "top secret" features.
Time Machine - nothing new conceptually, just graphically improved
Spaces - A blatant rip of "Virtue" for OS X
Mail Improvements - I already have plugins that do most of that
iChat - About 1000 people have already pointed out a been there, done that for iChat
All of Apple's supposed "new" features are not as new as they seem.
I like what they are doing with the stuff, but right now they need to save their *** and give away some "secret" features before people stop caring.
AxisOfBeagles
Mar 2, 07:55 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5100/5466009552_beb825cf38_b.jpg
Nice exposure, and nice composition.
Nice exposure, and nice composition.
citizenzen
Mar 29, 08:59 AM
It's fascinating how quickly the Democrat party has turned into the party of war...
A couple of points, 5P ...
1. I have never supported this latest military action. All I did in my posts was to point to the law that allows Obama to do what he did. It's the same law that's been used to justify numerous military actions since it's passing by both Democrats and Republicans alike. Pointing to a law and saying "this" is why something is allowed is not the same as endorsing either the law or the action that it permits.
2. Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and Bill Clinton are proof that Democrats have long been willing and able to use the military. The unfortunate truth is that both parties have been "parties of war" to this very day.
A couple of points, 5P ...
1. I have never supported this latest military action. All I did in my posts was to point to the law that allows Obama to do what he did. It's the same law that's been used to justify numerous military actions since it's passing by both Democrats and Republicans alike. Pointing to a law and saying "this" is why something is allowed is not the same as endorsing either the law or the action that it permits.
2. Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and Bill Clinton are proof that Democrats have long been willing and able to use the military. The unfortunate truth is that both parties have been "parties of war" to this very day.
sushi
Sep 13, 08:24 AM
This message is addressed to the folks that say the new Nano is just like the Mini.
The new Nano, while sharing similarities to the old Mini, is a newly designed iPod.
Check here for a comparison:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/firstlooks/
Need to scroll down 2/3-3/4 way down the page.
For clarification, I am not saying that the new Nano and old Mini do not share similarities. But look at the size and shape difference. Also realize the new Nano is flashed based with more space (8GB model) than the original Mini with HD. Additionally, better display, longer battery life, etc. Sure they share the same connector. That is a standard on all models except the Shuffle.
Personally I think that the new Nano looks great. Looking forward to colors at the 8GB model level sometime down the road.
The new Nano, while sharing similarities to the old Mini, is a newly designed iPod.
Check here for a comparison:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/firstlooks/
Need to scroll down 2/3-3/4 way down the page.
For clarification, I am not saying that the new Nano and old Mini do not share similarities. But look at the size and shape difference. Also realize the new Nano is flashed based with more space (8GB model) than the original Mini with HD. Additionally, better display, longer battery life, etc. Sure they share the same connector. That is a standard on all models except the Shuffle.
Personally I think that the new Nano looks great. Looking forward to colors at the 8GB model level sometime down the road.
cwh812
Sep 13, 03:56 PM
When the iPod's in there it's like a little glass coffin :)
Couldn't have said it better myself. Also when I bought it at the store the sales clerk asked me if I downloaded the Itunes software. I said yea, and he said when? I told him I downloaded Itunes 7.0 last night. He then said you're all set. It then occured to me that the packaging is way too small to fit a CD. They must be giving the Itunes software CDs to people who don't seem to be too tech savvy.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Also when I bought it at the store the sales clerk asked me if I downloaded the Itunes software. I said yea, and he said when? I told him I downloaded Itunes 7.0 last night. He then said you're all set. It then occured to me that the packaging is way too small to fit a CD. They must be giving the Itunes software CDs to people who don't seem to be too tech savvy.
kresh
Aug 8, 05:12 AM
Steve looks unhealthy. He's not as sharp as he used to be. His keynotes were flawless. He stuttered several times, forgot what he was saying in mid sentence, and handed a considerable amount of the keynote to other people. Steve was a control freak in past WWDC keynotes.
I think he may be in not-so-good health. But I've said that before.
I was thinking the same thing. He was not mentally very sharp.
Normally he is so excited and pumped. In past keynotes when he was sitting at the computer and grabbed his water, it with a purpose, excited to get on with it. In past keynotes it was the minor things, his body language and such, that would get me so pumped, I would be bouncing in my chair watching the keynote.
All of that was missing yesterday. He was distracted, and acted as if he had no energy at all.
But I think what tipped me off that something was wrong, was him allowing others to take up half of the presentation time.
I know that when Wal-Mart found out that Sam Walton was going to pass, they scrambled trying to absorb as much of Sam into the "Corporate Culture" as they could. For example, his dog Roy on the dogfood ect.
With Steve sharing the stage with his subordinates as much as he did, it was like Apple is now trying to show that there were other people besides Steve at Apple that have the passion.
Their mode of dress was even contrived. You could tell that not all of them were used to wearing thier shirt tales out. hehe The big guy's, that did the Mac Pro presentation, shirt was wrinkled where it had been tucked in his pants all morning long.
Sorry to ramble, but I just have a bad feeling that something is up with Steve. If there is, I hope there is enough time to absorb Steve into the Corporate Culture (instead of the tyrant image he has now) and cultivate someone to quickly step up.
heh, That was selfish, sorry. If something is up with Steve, I wish him all the best and hope that he can cured, and if not, pass in peace. :(
I would prefer to be totally wrong, and that he was just having a bad day!
I think he may be in not-so-good health. But I've said that before.
I was thinking the same thing. He was not mentally very sharp.
Normally he is so excited and pumped. In past keynotes when he was sitting at the computer and grabbed his water, it with a purpose, excited to get on with it. In past keynotes it was the minor things, his body language and such, that would get me so pumped, I would be bouncing in my chair watching the keynote.
All of that was missing yesterday. He was distracted, and acted as if he had no energy at all.
But I think what tipped me off that something was wrong, was him allowing others to take up half of the presentation time.
I know that when Wal-Mart found out that Sam Walton was going to pass, they scrambled trying to absorb as much of Sam into the "Corporate Culture" as they could. For example, his dog Roy on the dogfood ect.
With Steve sharing the stage with his subordinates as much as he did, it was like Apple is now trying to show that there were other people besides Steve at Apple that have the passion.
Their mode of dress was even contrived. You could tell that not all of them were used to wearing thier shirt tales out. hehe The big guy's, that did the Mac Pro presentation, shirt was wrinkled where it had been tucked in his pants all morning long.
Sorry to ramble, but I just have a bad feeling that something is up with Steve. If there is, I hope there is enough time to absorb Steve into the Corporate Culture (instead of the tyrant image he has now) and cultivate someone to quickly step up.
heh, That was selfish, sorry. If something is up with Steve, I wish him all the best and hope that he can cured, and if not, pass in peace. :(
I would prefer to be totally wrong, and that he was just having a bad day!
Squonk
Nov 7, 09:44 AM
Maybe they won't be 100% compliant, but unless something earth shattering happens before 802.11n is finalized, I'd expect that many draft-n products could be made compatible with equipment using the the final standard, with little more than a firmware change.
And wasn't 802.11g still in the draft stage when it was introduced in the AirPort Extreme? (Extreme was introduced on January 7, but 802.11g was not ratified until June 2003.)
That is something I've been wondering - what is the approval process like for these standards? Specifically, why does this take so long for approval?
I think its great that Apple is putting the pre-N capable hardware in to the iMac's, MP and MBP already just awaiting a pre-N capable base station to make it fly. Oooh - maybe they will intro this in November to have a sale on one for Black Friday? Steve, how about it?
Certainly the pre-n stuff will be turned on in January for the iTV intro. Here's a thought - so will there be MB and MM update prior to iTV so that the entire line will have pre-n hardware and be capable of communicating to the iTV at full tilt speeds? I'm guessing so!
And wasn't 802.11g still in the draft stage when it was introduced in the AirPort Extreme? (Extreme was introduced on January 7, but 802.11g was not ratified until June 2003.)
That is something I've been wondering - what is the approval process like for these standards? Specifically, why does this take so long for approval?
I think its great that Apple is putting the pre-N capable hardware in to the iMac's, MP and MBP already just awaiting a pre-N capable base station to make it fly. Oooh - maybe they will intro this in November to have a sale on one for Black Friday? Steve, how about it?
Certainly the pre-n stuff will be turned on in January for the iTV intro. Here's a thought - so will there be MB and MM update prior to iTV so that the entire line will have pre-n hardware and be capable of communicating to the iTV at full tilt speeds? I'm guessing so!
Detektiv-Pinky
Nov 8, 09:41 AM
Sligthly off-topic:
Judging from history what do you thing, when would iLife '07 be available?
I am seriously considering to wait a little longer (the 1.83 model has left me strongly disappointed).
So I thought I can wait a little longer and buy when iLife 07 will be included in the purchase (to make up for the lousy specs ) :rolleyes:
Judging from history what do you thing, when would iLife '07 be available?
I am seriously considering to wait a little longer (the 1.83 model has left me strongly disappointed).
So I thought I can wait a little longer and buy when iLife 07 will be included in the purchase (to make up for the lousy specs ) :rolleyes:
camelsnot
Mar 29, 03:11 AM
I want to be an attendee one day.
just wait at the local starbucks. All the "people" who got in to the conference will eventually end up there begging for free wifi, a venti mocha and a pastry while trying to blog that Steve Jobs actually looked their way. "It was magical.. I pee'd a little!". :rolleyes:
It's just a keynote... hype about features that will already be leaked in the press and of course they'll have to unjustly bash the competition for no apparent reason, slipping in a little lie or two in the process. It's just a standard press event really. I'd rather go to something like NAB. Oh yeah.. probably no Apple sightings there as they still can't complete a new FCS. Once again Avid, Foundry and Adobe will forge ahead with their products while Apple is too busy thinking of how to add real multitasking to their iOS or how to allow users to buy more samples for GarageBand via itunes.
just wait at the local starbucks. All the "people" who got in to the conference will eventually end up there begging for free wifi, a venti mocha and a pastry while trying to blog that Steve Jobs actually looked their way. "It was magical.. I pee'd a little!". :rolleyes:
It's just a keynote... hype about features that will already be leaked in the press and of course they'll have to unjustly bash the competition for no apparent reason, slipping in a little lie or two in the process. It's just a standard press event really. I'd rather go to something like NAB. Oh yeah.. probably no Apple sightings there as they still can't complete a new FCS. Once again Avid, Foundry and Adobe will forge ahead with their products while Apple is too busy thinking of how to add real multitasking to their iOS or how to allow users to buy more samples for GarageBand via itunes.
abbstrack
Mar 25, 07:54 PM
downloading now, but does anyone know if it fixed the issue with the sticky slide to unlock bar?
this has become increasingly frustrating over the past few days.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2784545&start=0&tstart=0
this has become increasingly frustrating over the past few days.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2784545&start=0&tstart=0
ten-oak-druid
May 5, 12:09 AM
Yeah, Blu Ray players are pretty useless because of the PS3, which is usually cheaper and can play Blu Ray anyway. Of course, my dad got a Blu Ray player before I could say anything :rolleyes:
And I think the digital copy is useless because of Netflix, which can just stream it. The internet is the future for now, not discs.
I don't know about the digital copy being useless. I have netflix and I also add movies to itunes. I see them as complimentary. Some items I do not care to purchase and it is nice to have netflix. On the other hand I like owning movie and TV shows that I really like. Also netflix doesn't have everything I want. And don't forget when traveling, you don't always have good internet.
The Apple TV is nice because it accesses both netflix and my itunes media.
Anyway movies I really like, I tend to buy physical copies anyway and rip them to add to itunes. The digital copy/blu ray is better as I can play the 1080p version once in a while and access it on the computer/ iOS anytime.
I'm looking forward to the release of Lord of the Rings extended edition coming out this summer on blu ray. I believe that has digital copy too.
And I think the digital copy is useless because of Netflix, which can just stream it. The internet is the future for now, not discs.
I don't know about the digital copy being useless. I have netflix and I also add movies to itunes. I see them as complimentary. Some items I do not care to purchase and it is nice to have netflix. On the other hand I like owning movie and TV shows that I really like. Also netflix doesn't have everything I want. And don't forget when traveling, you don't always have good internet.
The Apple TV is nice because it accesses both netflix and my itunes media.
Anyway movies I really like, I tend to buy physical copies anyway and rip them to add to itunes. The digital copy/blu ray is better as I can play the 1080p version once in a while and access it on the computer/ iOS anytime.
I'm looking forward to the release of Lord of the Rings extended edition coming out this summer on blu ray. I believe that has digital copy too.
michaelrjohnson
Aug 8, 01:37 PM
I do. But I'm sure someone will tell us that we are idiots for thinking so and why it is sooo obvious why they don't include them. My guess is they will use loads of acronyms ;)
Well the GBT Standard Methodology of Computer Hardware End-User Inclusions (GBT-SMCHEUI, for short) indicates that any machine weighing over 9.732 lbs. Must not, under the authority of the GBT-SMCHEUI, include the hardware in question, under penalty of law. Duh.
:D
Acually, I'm a bit surprised myself. I mean, they're not going to gain a huge amount of profit by charging people for it. Oh well, my guess in Rev. B it'll be included.
Well the GBT Standard Methodology of Computer Hardware End-User Inclusions (GBT-SMCHEUI, for short) indicates that any machine weighing over 9.732 lbs. Must not, under the authority of the GBT-SMCHEUI, include the hardware in question, under penalty of law. Duh.
:D
Acually, I'm a bit surprised myself. I mean, they're not going to gain a huge amount of profit by charging people for it. Oh well, my guess in Rev. B it'll be included.
georgi0
Sep 22, 01:14 PM
have you all checked how many employees does wal mart have?
about a gazilion.
if they don;t get it their way then they push the government nad comitees to put the presure on certain issues concering the one they want to hurt.
imagine let's say that wal mat due to this apple deal with all studios will make a statemnet saying we lost 10% or our revenues so we will lay off 10% of our employess to cover for the losses.!!
now what do you do in this case?
it's not a free world after all....
not for those who have the power !
about a gazilion.
if they don;t get it their way then they push the government nad comitees to put the presure on certain issues concering the one they want to hurt.
imagine let's say that wal mat due to this apple deal with all studios will make a statemnet saying we lost 10% or our revenues so we will lay off 10% of our employess to cover for the losses.!!
now what do you do in this case?
it's not a free world after all....
not for those who have the power !
wnurse
Aug 8, 10:31 PM
I completely agree. It would be a big surprise to me that any method of connecting to an OS X Mac would allow it to be controlled without specific permissions granted by the administrator account, suggesting these guys left the account open on purpose or allowed remote access with the password known. In other words, once you access the computer you still have to get the operating system to give you permission to screw around.
On the other hand, if this exploit is actually true, it doesn't really matter who's driver is to blame: somehow they were able to subvert OS X's security. THAT would be an issue for Apple and for all of us.
All things considered, I don't believe they did what they claim they did.
Yes, it's always good to bury your head in the sand.. makes the problem goes away or even better, makes the problem non-existent. Did you read the part where they are in contact with Apple and microsoft?.. you think apple employees have time to deal with a crackpot?. I believe if this was a joke, you'd know.
On the other hand, if this exploit is actually true, it doesn't really matter who's driver is to blame: somehow they were able to subvert OS X's security. THAT would be an issue for Apple and for all of us.
All things considered, I don't believe they did what they claim they did.
Yes, it's always good to bury your head in the sand.. makes the problem goes away or even better, makes the problem non-existent. Did you read the part where they are in contact with Apple and microsoft?.. you think apple employees have time to deal with a crackpot?. I believe if this was a joke, you'd know.
baleensavage
Sep 12, 02:59 PM
Has anyone seen anything about being able to redownload TV shows we already purchased with the higher resolution. I haven't seen anything, but if Apple doesn't offer this, I'll be pretty peeved off as I just bought these shows recently.
apolloa
Apr 5, 07:35 AM
This is the first, and last time Apple will ask for Sony's help.
Yeah, but not the last time it asks for all the hundreds of other suppliers help it does so yearly as Apple actually makes NOTHING itself bar software these days.......
And I'm pretty sure it's not called 'help' but rather buying the best components from suppliers to make your products with.
And on a side note, Sonys Exmoor R which is most likely what Apple will use, pretty much creams the iPhone 4's module, if it wasn't a big enough improvement Apple wouldn't bother with it and use something else.
Yeah, but not the last time it asks for all the hundreds of other suppliers help it does so yearly as Apple actually makes NOTHING itself bar software these days.......
And I'm pretty sure it's not called 'help' but rather buying the best components from suppliers to make your products with.
And on a side note, Sonys Exmoor R which is most likely what Apple will use, pretty much creams the iPhone 4's module, if it wasn't a big enough improvement Apple wouldn't bother with it and use something else.
likemyorbs
Apr 26, 01:55 PM
Why is that? I would see both options as equally lousy.
They are both lousy, but trailer parks are safer. People may get into domestic disputes in their own trailers and call the police, but you don't see white gangs terrorizing the streets and having to worry about getting shot walking outside your front door after dark.
They are both lousy, but trailer parks are safer. People may get into domestic disputes in their own trailers and call the police, but you don't see white gangs terrorizing the streets and having to worry about getting shot walking outside your front door after dark.
anim8or
May 5, 03:21 AM
I HATE 3D... its so poorly executed.... and even if it was better then it still seems a pointless direction to go in.
Soon enough i hope the movie studios see that all their efforts are pointless and stop wasting their budgets on a gimmick that has the masses divided the better.
I am so glad i waited for the iPad 2 and didn't make the mistake of waiting for the iPad 3(D)....!
Soon enough i hope the movie studios see that all their efforts are pointless and stop wasting their budgets on a gimmick that has the masses divided the better.
I am so glad i waited for the iPad 2 and didn't make the mistake of waiting for the iPad 3(D)....!
likemyorbs
Apr 27, 12:54 PM
If CorvusCamenarum's theory is correct, white people better shape up! No more whining, no more excuses. Diminish funds for white people and expand them for black people.
If his theory is correct, expanding funds for black people wouldn't change their genetics. So no. :rolleyes:
If his theory is correct, expanding funds for black people wouldn't change their genetics. So no. :rolleyes:
drlunanerd
Nov 8, 08:00 AM
Isn't it only a �30 drop - only done it so that it appears to be under a grand. Its not a significant drop - shame really, because its still so much more than the white one!
It's only �20 more now than a same-spec white one. Cheaper than before I think.
It's only �20 more now than a same-spec white one. Cheaper than before I think.
ct2k7
Mar 14, 05:00 PM
If the specs are good enough, then maybe this will be my first mac....
thestaton
Aug 2, 08:12 PM
So lets see, I just bought a new mac book however I really don't like the built in antenna for some unknown reason and I go to walmart and buy an external card not made by apple. I then go the airport, where I'm hacked and my life is ruined there is no going back. Riiiiiiiiight.
What a crock, the odds of someone getting hacked is about .1% or less. What gets headlines? A Mac getting hacked not windows who cares. These guys are tools, and I love the links to the ads & the ad in the video they make you watch. Nice touch, way to make money off of Apples good name.
What a crock, the odds of someone getting hacked is about .1% or less. What gets headlines? A Mac getting hacked not windows who cares. These guys are tools, and I love the links to the ads & the ad in the video they make you watch. Nice touch, way to make money off of Apples good name.
iGav
Sep 13, 09:08 AM
I think they've ruined it myself. *sniff sniff*
longofest
Oct 26, 05:23 PM
here's some of my speculation about this update...
While we don't know exactly how the Firmware update was designed, it would appear as though the update could simply ignore symptoms of a SMC short circuit to allow the laptop to continue operating. If this is the case it may degrade a MacBook's ability to detect true over-heat situations.
AppleInsider had previously reported that a new MacBook logic board was under development to eliminate the root hardware issue, but a release date was not known.
While we don't know exactly how the Firmware update was designed, it would appear as though the update could simply ignore symptoms of a SMC short circuit to allow the laptop to continue operating. If this is the case it may degrade a MacBook's ability to detect true over-heat situations.
AppleInsider had previously reported that a new MacBook logic board was under development to eliminate the root hardware issue, but a release date was not known.
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