sayantan76
04-13 06:03 PM
I am new to this community and have been watching some other forums online, but I am glad we have one dedicated for EB immigration. Way to go Immigration Voice!!!
Now, before anyone jumps at me, I promise to contribute for IV's efforts and donate for the various projects in a couple days.
The reason I am posting this is because I saw various threads with various ideas to gain visibility and make out cause known to all. I saw thready ranging from writing to senators to sending a 1 cent check everyday to sending a voided check for a big amount. Other notable ideas include sending flowers, calling senators, FOIA campaign, writing to the Obama administration, etc. While I agree that each of these actions contribute small drops to the ocean, I honestly think we should think BIG!!
I have analyzed EB Immigration considerably and here are my thoughts -
Anti-Immigrants, especially the ones against EB Immigration feel that we take away their jobs. However our defense against that is there's aren't that many skilled immigrants for certain skill set and hence we fill that void and keep corporate America competitive. However a lot of us argue that we who are waiting in line for our potential Green Cards pay our taxes and aide by the law, etc. All valid arguments. However, that doesn't make us any different than the majority of the 90% workforce that is employed. They all pay taxes too.
I have seen other ideas being floated around where they said "Buy a house, get a green card." Now, two issues with this - How many of us potential immigrants have 250 grand to invest in a house? I don't and can perhaps pay 5-10% down payment on a house. But if I lose my job, then I will be forced to default too and that doesn't help the economy. Also, there are more than 10 million homes in foreclosure and even hypothetically, let's say we will buy a house on a mortgage at 10% down. There are, say 1 million immigrants in waiting including dependents. And we buy 500,000 homes. That is a small dent in the entire real estate economy. Won't make a significant difference. Secondly, the current mess we are in was caused by the "sub prime" mortgage loans. If you know what "sub prime" means, then you probably know the areas where these houses were purchased. Have you seen the neighborhoods or the areas where these houses are foreclosed? A majority of us won't even drive through there, leave alone buying houses there. So obviously, us buying homes is not going to solve this economic mess. If you still insist, then you perhaps need to take a class on economics 101.
OK, say why am I saying all this? Well, for one, while its great that we put our brains to work to help solve the economic crisis, since a good economy has a knock on effect on immigration, but we can't come up with ordinary ideas. These are extraordinary times and we need extraordinary ideas. We need to think out of the box. I appreciate the efforts of IV with the FOIA drive, but here's my question with that - Besides knowing how long the wait is going to be to get our GC based on the information from USCIS, what other purpose is the FOIA going to solve? Probably not much. But I do agree that having those numbers helps us in identifying where we need to focus our lobbying efforts. If we know the bottleneck is EB2-EB3 spillover, we can work on that with USCIS.
Someone mentioned in another thread where we all need to concentrate on one effort rather than be divided in multiple efforts. And I think it was suggested that we focus on visa numbers recapturing. I think its a great idea. However, please be aware that in the context of CIR, EB immigration is a small drop. And hence any lobbying to increase/recapture visa numbers need to be done with the FB immigration. EB and FB together can lobby for the recapture visa numbers project and might achieve considerable success.
If we as EB immigrants need to make our voice known, we need to take a leaf out of the President's book, from his campaign. He started a grass roots level campaign and look at where that has led him to!! So here is my suggestion for a project that will highlight our cause and lead some of the anti- EB Immigration Aholes to shut up their various holes.
I am assuming we have around 500K immigrants in waiting. Let's say there are 250K primary applicants. The goal is we try to get an email database of as many potential immigrants we can. Next we start an email campaign highlighting a story of an immigrant family or a news article against immigration or lobbying by anti immigrant groups or lack of visibility in ongoing discussions on CIR. At the bottom of each email, we have a donate button that takes the person to IV's donation page/paypal, whatever it might be. We start with a minimum of $50 and go upwards to $500. The goal is if we have atleast, say 100,000 potential immigrants to contribute a min of $50, then if my calculations are in order, that is about $5 Millions. We might have more depending on how many more people contribute and how much more than the min $50 that people contribute. But the baseline collection would be about $5 Million. OK, so what do we with that money? Well, the biggest skill set for us EB immigrants are our education. We have a minimum of a bachelors degree and have a penchant for being well educated. That is the weakness in the American education system - Education. We say thousands of high school dropouts. Thousands of college drop outs. The Obama administration has clearly said they need to invest in America's future. And hence they have a big ambitious spending on fixing the educational system. I know that as non permanent residents or citizens, we are not allowed to contribute to any politicians. However, we can donate money to the state or to a charity organization. What I suggest is we collect this money and send it to the first lady, Michelle Obama and have her send this to a non profit community project for education on our behalf. This will bring a lot of attention because we as EB immigrants are saying, we want to contribute to better the educational system if given a chance so that the future American generations don't become prey to the 21st century American competitiveness like outsourcing and H Visas and stuff.
This might seem like a small drop in the ocean, but it is definitely a bright one!! And don't tell me it can't be done. It sure can be done. There was someone who already did this at the grassroots level, and his name is Barack Obama!!!
I am willing to talk to the IV Core team to discuss if needed.
While it seems like a great initiative - lets take a step back and examine the "materiality" of the $5MM number........
1. Annual budget of a typical State Univ is upwards of $1Bn.
2. $5MM can pay for college education of say, 100 kids (only about 50 if you include living expenses)
So, what the message that would go out in media would actually read like is the following:
"100,000 green card applicants trying to buy their way to US Residency by sponsoring 100 kids' college education and/or contributing 0.2% of Ohio State University's Annual Budget"
To the average American worker who has lost his/her job or knows someone close who has - this would, in my mind, seem like a bribe........and make them anti-EB if they already were not.........
All immigrant and non-immigrant workers do their fair share for this country by paying their taxes and abiding by the laws of the land + they pay significant fees during their entire H1 and GC process- a proposal that involves them shelling out any more $$s would only create a sense that we are trying to buy our way in plus its not really fair on the applicants in any way.
Now, before anyone jumps at me, I promise to contribute for IV's efforts and donate for the various projects in a couple days.
The reason I am posting this is because I saw various threads with various ideas to gain visibility and make out cause known to all. I saw thready ranging from writing to senators to sending a 1 cent check everyday to sending a voided check for a big amount. Other notable ideas include sending flowers, calling senators, FOIA campaign, writing to the Obama administration, etc. While I agree that each of these actions contribute small drops to the ocean, I honestly think we should think BIG!!
I have analyzed EB Immigration considerably and here are my thoughts -
Anti-Immigrants, especially the ones against EB Immigration feel that we take away their jobs. However our defense against that is there's aren't that many skilled immigrants for certain skill set and hence we fill that void and keep corporate America competitive. However a lot of us argue that we who are waiting in line for our potential Green Cards pay our taxes and aide by the law, etc. All valid arguments. However, that doesn't make us any different than the majority of the 90% workforce that is employed. They all pay taxes too.
I have seen other ideas being floated around where they said "Buy a house, get a green card." Now, two issues with this - How many of us potential immigrants have 250 grand to invest in a house? I don't and can perhaps pay 5-10% down payment on a house. But if I lose my job, then I will be forced to default too and that doesn't help the economy. Also, there are more than 10 million homes in foreclosure and even hypothetically, let's say we will buy a house on a mortgage at 10% down. There are, say 1 million immigrants in waiting including dependents. And we buy 500,000 homes. That is a small dent in the entire real estate economy. Won't make a significant difference. Secondly, the current mess we are in was caused by the "sub prime" mortgage loans. If you know what "sub prime" means, then you probably know the areas where these houses were purchased. Have you seen the neighborhoods or the areas where these houses are foreclosed? A majority of us won't even drive through there, leave alone buying houses there. So obviously, us buying homes is not going to solve this economic mess. If you still insist, then you perhaps need to take a class on economics 101.
OK, say why am I saying all this? Well, for one, while its great that we put our brains to work to help solve the economic crisis, since a good economy has a knock on effect on immigration, but we can't come up with ordinary ideas. These are extraordinary times and we need extraordinary ideas. We need to think out of the box. I appreciate the efforts of IV with the FOIA drive, but here's my question with that - Besides knowing how long the wait is going to be to get our GC based on the information from USCIS, what other purpose is the FOIA going to solve? Probably not much. But I do agree that having those numbers helps us in identifying where we need to focus our lobbying efforts. If we know the bottleneck is EB2-EB3 spillover, we can work on that with USCIS.
Someone mentioned in another thread where we all need to concentrate on one effort rather than be divided in multiple efforts. And I think it was suggested that we focus on visa numbers recapturing. I think its a great idea. However, please be aware that in the context of CIR, EB immigration is a small drop. And hence any lobbying to increase/recapture visa numbers need to be done with the FB immigration. EB and FB together can lobby for the recapture visa numbers project and might achieve considerable success.
If we as EB immigrants need to make our voice known, we need to take a leaf out of the President's book, from his campaign. He started a grass roots level campaign and look at where that has led him to!! So here is my suggestion for a project that will highlight our cause and lead some of the anti- EB Immigration Aholes to shut up their various holes.
I am assuming we have around 500K immigrants in waiting. Let's say there are 250K primary applicants. The goal is we try to get an email database of as many potential immigrants we can. Next we start an email campaign highlighting a story of an immigrant family or a news article against immigration or lobbying by anti immigrant groups or lack of visibility in ongoing discussions on CIR. At the bottom of each email, we have a donate button that takes the person to IV's donation page/paypal, whatever it might be. We start with a minimum of $50 and go upwards to $500. The goal is if we have atleast, say 100,000 potential immigrants to contribute a min of $50, then if my calculations are in order, that is about $5 Millions. We might have more depending on how many more people contribute and how much more than the min $50 that people contribute. But the baseline collection would be about $5 Million. OK, so what do we with that money? Well, the biggest skill set for us EB immigrants are our education. We have a minimum of a bachelors degree and have a penchant for being well educated. That is the weakness in the American education system - Education. We say thousands of high school dropouts. Thousands of college drop outs. The Obama administration has clearly said they need to invest in America's future. And hence they have a big ambitious spending on fixing the educational system. I know that as non permanent residents or citizens, we are not allowed to contribute to any politicians. However, we can donate money to the state or to a charity organization. What I suggest is we collect this money and send it to the first lady, Michelle Obama and have her send this to a non profit community project for education on our behalf. This will bring a lot of attention because we as EB immigrants are saying, we want to contribute to better the educational system if given a chance so that the future American generations don't become prey to the 21st century American competitiveness like outsourcing and H Visas and stuff.
This might seem like a small drop in the ocean, but it is definitely a bright one!! And don't tell me it can't be done. It sure can be done. There was someone who already did this at the grassroots level, and his name is Barack Obama!!!
I am willing to talk to the IV Core team to discuss if needed.
While it seems like a great initiative - lets take a step back and examine the "materiality" of the $5MM number........
1. Annual budget of a typical State Univ is upwards of $1Bn.
2. $5MM can pay for college education of say, 100 kids (only about 50 if you include living expenses)
So, what the message that would go out in media would actually read like is the following:
"100,000 green card applicants trying to buy their way to US Residency by sponsoring 100 kids' college education and/or contributing 0.2% of Ohio State University's Annual Budget"
To the average American worker who has lost his/her job or knows someone close who has - this would, in my mind, seem like a bribe........and make them anti-EB if they already were not.........
All immigrant and non-immigrant workers do their fair share for this country by paying their taxes and abiding by the laws of the land + they pay significant fees during their entire H1 and GC process- a proposal that involves them shelling out any more $$s would only create a sense that we are trying to buy our way in plus its not really fair on the applicants in any way.
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sanbaj
07-23 10:09 AM
Congratulations!! Enjoy ur GC!!
Did you do anything to expedite interfiling to use new I-140 for your pending I-485?
THANKS Indyanguy and Pscdk !!
For expediting Interfiling, nothing in specific. I called USCIS 3-4 times and did one infopass visit. Everytime, the answer was same, "No Information". Few times it was difficult to explain to them what interfiling is. Then, I learnt to say "PD Amendment" (My lawyer used that term) with the two separate approved I140s. I called USCIS last Friday (Jul/18/2008), and they told me to wait 4-5 MONTHS. You can see how much off they are and IIO and IO work for the same USCIS. It is Ludicrous.
Best of Luck to you guys. Hope your GC is approved soon.
Did you do anything to expedite interfiling to use new I-140 for your pending I-485?
THANKS Indyanguy and Pscdk !!
For expediting Interfiling, nothing in specific. I called USCIS 3-4 times and did one infopass visit. Everytime, the answer was same, "No Information". Few times it was difficult to explain to them what interfiling is. Then, I learnt to say "PD Amendment" (My lawyer used that term) with the two separate approved I140s. I called USCIS last Friday (Jul/18/2008), and they told me to wait 4-5 MONTHS. You can see how much off they are and IIO and IO work for the same USCIS. It is Ludicrous.
Best of Luck to you guys. Hope your GC is approved soon.
alterego
09-15 01:39 PM
Hey, this sounds sig-worthy... can I use that for my sig?
Did you come to america for Horizontal growth...................ie to increase your girth?
You could easily do that in india these days. Some comments here are plain funny!
Did you come to america for Horizontal growth...................ie to increase your girth?
You could easily do that in india these days. Some comments here are plain funny!
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eilsoe
02-03 06:37 PM
So did I!! =)
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Openarms
06-05 11:36 AM
That post was intended towards EB3 category, particularly EB3-India. Ever since starting of this Fiscal Year there are very few EB3-India approvals (Can anybody dispute that?). So how come USCIS used up all the visas already?? Most of the guys here always talk about EB2-India which is not highly effected category in the first place. We suppose to be taking care of effected categories.
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09-02 03:10 PM
Akhil, can you PM the copy of the letter you sent in with your AP renewal (efile). Also what did you enter in Class of admission? how much fee did you have to pay - 305 or 385?
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wa_Saiprasad
07-04 09:29 PM
My company paid for attorney fees. I don�t know the amount for that. My wild guess would be 4000$
My pocket expense
$680 - medical tests
$75 - photographs
$50 - mailing fees.
$100 � Extra Day care expenses. My wife and I have wasted 2 working days for this filling, We had to work extra hours and week ends to compensate. Had to drop my kid at the day care extra hours when we were working extra hours.
My pocket expense
$680 - medical tests
$75 - photographs
$50 - mailing fees.
$100 � Extra Day care expenses. My wife and I have wasted 2 working days for this filling, We had to work extra hours and week ends to compensate. Had to drop my kid at the day care extra hours when we were working extra hours.
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paskal
06-24 07:18 PM
I learned that the full committee meeting was scheduled for June 23rd (yesterday). Was it dropped or rescheduled?? Can you give that piece of information?
Folks,
I do not have any update on any meeting right now...I'm sure that once something becomes available, we will all hear...!
Folks,
I do not have any update on any meeting right now...I'm sure that once something becomes available, we will all hear...!
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longq
12-26 03:26 PM
So that means the unused Visa number flow "downwords" within the country category NOT "accross" the EB category.
Yes. Now the question is, whether it is right or wrong as per the current law.
Yes. Now the question is, whether it is right or wrong as per the current law.
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breddy2000
05-30 03:14 PM
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vejella
12-26 04:08 PM
please share comments on this topic...
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gcgreen
08-12 01:12 PM
I do not know how feasible this is, but if in your employment letter, there is a description of responsibilities, and additionally a statement like: "The job being offered to XXX falls under O-NET classification 15-1031," then you are completely covered, because the employer is positing that the job being offered to you falls under that classification. Again, don't emphasize technologies etc., just the job description and mainly classification.
The AC21 language is very clear: "same or similar occupational classification"
It does not say job responsibilities or job title. These are interpretations of that term and used to DETERMINE the occupational classification. So as long as the occupational classification matches or is similar, you should be fine.
Also, the O-NET classification is from SOC which stands for "standard OCCUPATIONAL CLASSIFICATION." It can't get any clearer than that :-)
As always, my cautionary statement: I am not a lawyer, just applying common sense interpretation to the terms.
In that case, both my old and new job (responsibilities and titles) fall under 15-1031.00 if we take into consideration a broader classification where job duties are the same but technologies are probably 60% same but some technologies mentioned in my L/C are obsolete and my current employer does not list those technologies.
The AC21 language is very clear: "same or similar occupational classification"
It does not say job responsibilities or job title. These are interpretations of that term and used to DETERMINE the occupational classification. So as long as the occupational classification matches or is similar, you should be fine.
Also, the O-NET classification is from SOC which stands for "standard OCCUPATIONAL CLASSIFICATION." It can't get any clearer than that :-)
As always, my cautionary statement: I am not a lawyer, just applying common sense interpretation to the terms.
In that case, both my old and new job (responsibilities and titles) fall under 15-1031.00 if we take into consideration a broader classification where job duties are the same but technologies are probably 60% same but some technologies mentioned in my L/C are obsolete and my current employer does not list those technologies.
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laborchic
06-12 12:03 PM
Keep your fingers crossed guys.. This is going to be a long fight.. I hope everyone does their own bit and try to help in IV's efforts.
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smmakani
03-24 03:21 PM
Anyone from Minnesota? I have also asked this question on the state chapter thread. Who can give me the information as to who should I go and meet and where in minnesota? where to call and take the appointment? Local congressman means in minneapolis or He could be anywhere in minnesota.
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yabadaba
07-02 03:15 PM
medical tests - $540 (total for me + wife)
fedex - at least $100 (3-4 over night packages)
lawyer fees- company (no idea)
photographs ($0.18) - (digital camera+epassportphoto.com+walgreens printing)
mileage to doctor (3 round trips) - 180 miles
points on my master card - priceless
fedex - at least $100 (3-4 over night packages)
lawyer fees- company (no idea)
photographs ($0.18) - (digital camera+epassportphoto.com+walgreens printing)
mileage to doctor (3 round trips) - 180 miles
points on my master card - priceless
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InTheMoment
08-15 02:42 PM
Two things I would like to mention here:
First, a possibilty of an RFE for your laetest Employment Verification only arises when certain red-flags are raised. Among them are:
1.) Address on file (which has changed after filing I-485) is in a different state from the place of employment. Now I am sure the officer knows that DC and Virginia/Maryland or NH and MA are different states but still they can be daily commuter workers sou could be spared.
I have seen more than a bunch of folks getting RFE's for this specific reason.
2.) Long time (upto the discretion of the CAO..but I feel it is more than 18 months) has passed since the I-485 has filed.
3.) Any other history of excessive job-hopping.
Please pitch in if you know any other substantive reason.
Second,
For the job description from the new employer: I would say put whatever the new employer says but make sure ...for sure to copy paste two related sentences from your old job desc. into the new one to be the first bullets in the description.
I had changed jobs using AC21, used EAD, moved to a different state (5-6 states apart, i.e not a daily commuter) had a slightly different job title. Oh I was so sure that I would get an RFE ...I made sure I sent the AC21 docs against the advise of my attorney (he wanted CIS to send the RFE, made no sense as that would have literally wasted time and my money ;))...and did all the things that I just said about the new EVL...and got the I-485 approved without any issues.
Go ahead and make the best of AC21!:)
First, a possibilty of an RFE for your laetest Employment Verification only arises when certain red-flags are raised. Among them are:
1.) Address on file (which has changed after filing I-485) is in a different state from the place of employment. Now I am sure the officer knows that DC and Virginia/Maryland or NH and MA are different states but still they can be daily commuter workers sou could be spared.
I have seen more than a bunch of folks getting RFE's for this specific reason.
2.) Long time (upto the discretion of the CAO..but I feel it is more than 18 months) has passed since the I-485 has filed.
3.) Any other history of excessive job-hopping.
Please pitch in if you know any other substantive reason.
Second,
For the job description from the new employer: I would say put whatever the new employer says but make sure ...for sure to copy paste two related sentences from your old job desc. into the new one to be the first bullets in the description.
I had changed jobs using AC21, used EAD, moved to a different state (5-6 states apart, i.e not a daily commuter) had a slightly different job title. Oh I was so sure that I would get an RFE ...I made sure I sent the AC21 docs against the advise of my attorney (he wanted CIS to send the RFE, made no sense as that would have literally wasted time and my money ;))...and did all the things that I just said about the new EVL...and got the I-485 approved without any issues.
Go ahead and make the best of AC21!:)
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sanju
03-03 09:51 PM
Hi
Sorry for the delay in response... I did transfer money but not a large amount. Around three or four times I transferred around $3K for personal purposes.
Read this -
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29432007/
If I were you, I would call the cops and report this immediately. One can say that you are calling for the protection of your family because a similar incidence of a fake ICE officer took place recently. They could easily find out if that was a real guy or some hoax.
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Sorry for the delay in response... I did transfer money but not a large amount. Around three or four times I transferred around $3K for personal purposes.
Read this -
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29432007/
If I were you, I would call the cops and report this immediately. One can say that you are calling for the protection of your family because a similar incidence of a fake ICE officer took place recently. They could easily find out if that was a real guy or some hoax.
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06-12 09:34 AM
http://judiciary.house.gov/schedule.aspx
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vallabhu
07-17 10:48 AM
I see July 16th date for California , Nebraska and Vermont but i still see June 18th for Texas.
Saburi
02-12 04:12 PM
H1B transfer was regular transfer but my new employer used the same job code as specified in labor.
My attorney, then send the AC21 with new employer offer letter to uscis.
hope this helps
Do you really have to notify USCIS about you are changing employer as my lawyer told me its not required and this is one of the best lawyer, i did my H1 B trasfered before even my I 485 application may be thats why.
Would it be a problem for me if i transfered my H1 B even before i apply for I 485, as my lawyers explaination to that was as I 485 is for Future Employment and has nothing to do with the current employment.
Please do advice on this.
Saburi
My attorney, then send the AC21 with new employer offer letter to uscis.
hope this helps
Do you really have to notify USCIS about you are changing employer as my lawyer told me its not required and this is one of the best lawyer, i did my H1 B trasfered before even my I 485 application may be thats why.
Would it be a problem for me if i transfered my H1 B even before i apply for I 485, as my lawyers explaination to that was as I 485 is for Future Employment and has nothing to do with the current employment.
Please do advice on this.
Saburi
fromnaija
08-31 03:51 PM
Thank you! The reporter interviewed me for this story and I didn't even know it was published.
ABC News:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3526093&page=1
ABC News:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3526093&page=1
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